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Post by Boony on Mar 29, 2007 9:08:31 GMT
So you buy a sandwich and fifteen pints? Nice...
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Post by Moo on Mar 29, 2007 9:16:41 GMT
I like that equation.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Mar 29, 2007 9:24:39 GMT
Well no, but the last place I was at had an awesome korma (for awesome read "it was actually spicy and not baby food) and it was part of the "Meal and a Drink; £5.50!" deal.
This meant that I could have a curry and any draught pint for £5.50 of my own money and then run expenses out to about £15-£20 worth of Jack O Legs or, Oxfordshire boy, Hobgoblin, which is rather tasty and comes from your neck of the woods.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Mar 29, 2007 12:58:40 GMT
Right then, June is approaching, where you'll be able to do something more with your fighters than look at their pretty names.
As you work the boxers in the gym, so you'll get to know more about them - sparring will provide the most information and, personally, I'd suggest that for June.
Boxers are rated thusly :
Type FaceTrick boxers are divided neatly into two types. Aggressive Punching Physical types like to go forward and are happier trying to raise the tempo of the fight and get into a brawl. They'd rather win by knockout and go home.
Technical boxers can often be heard pronouncing such gems as "I'm a boxer, not a fighter" and would rather put on a display of the Marquis of Queensbury rules and win a resounding points decision than go all out for the knockout. They tend to be measured and more defensive.
Ability All boxers have two ability ratings - one for how they fare against each of the two types. So your facepuncher could be great against physical guys who move forward into range, but really struggle against the more technical fighter. Or vice versa.
Defence How good your boxer is at defending himself. Ob-vee-arse-lee. Either through getting his hands in the way, or moving himself out of the way.
Power How hard he can punch to the face. Or elsewhere. Cockpunches possible, depending on how naughty a fighter he is.
Durability This is the fighter's general physical condition. It contributes to his stamina rating, but also to his ability to throw and receive lots of punches.
Chin How well he can take a punch. The only real way to tell is to have someone lamp you in the face.
This skill cannot be trained.
Cut He might have a chin made of rock, but if his face splits like an over-ripe peach every time he's punched, then he's going to get stopped, all the same once there's too much claret sloshing about.
This skill cannot be trained.
Determination This has an effect on everything - determined boxers are more likely to get the most out of their skills and are more likely to keep going when the chips are down. They're also more likely to get up having been knocked down.
Recovery Nobody really wins a fight, they just lose it less than the other guy. I heard that on Rocky, I think. Recovery covers how many big punches a guy can take before he starts to get into serious trouble and also how long he needs between fights and how much of the effect of one fight will be carried over into the next.
Sportsmanship Only three ratings here, from Captain Sporting who follows the referee's instructions and says "sorry" every time he hits someone, to your average guy, to the guy who throws elbows and headbutts, puts vaseline on his gloves and hits people with saucepans when the ref's not looking.
Stamina How fit your guy is. This will rest a few points below the maximum, climb to maximum as the boxer goes through pre-fight training and then erode away during the course of a fight, before returning to the rest level sometime after the fight.
Styles Boxers have four different styles available and will be more comfortable in some than others. Some will fight in styles comepletely inappropriate to their skills and will need to be "advised" against that.
The standard styles are Inside and Outside which bring no special bonuses but also no drawbacks. A boxer whose best punch is a cross should probably stand outside, while a guy who wants to throw hooks or uppercuts will be better off at shorter range.
Jab and Move is for agile and fit boxers who want to stand outside of range, move in, throw a couple of punches and then move back out of range before they can be hit. It's a predominantly defensive mode, which will react to the moves of the opponent. It's good for fast technical boxers to use against aggressive slower boxers, for example.
Jab and Move bolsters defence and gives an advantage to the quicker, fitter boxer, but it uses stamina a lot more quickly.
Brawl Brawling boxers will try to stand on their opponents toes and turn the fight into a short-range slugfest. If they can trap the other guy against the ropes or in a corner, even better. It's good for aggressive boxers who want to dominate their opponent.
Brawl bolsters offence, particularly at close range giving an advantage to the stronger, fitter boxer, but it uses more stamina.
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Post by coffers on Mar 31, 2007 16:17:22 GMT
Can we have all these bits about types styles and training etc, posted on Page 1 so they are easy to find?
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Post by Boony on Mar 31, 2007 23:51:46 GMT
Or maybe put on a separate Face Punching Rules website, linked on the front page...
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 2, 2007 15:14:09 GMT
I could do that, though surely that's a job for the Grass Roots moderator... I'm just putting excel on the work laptop and then the face punching stuff will pick up again. 800's got most of his june information, anyone else who has sent me orders will get their results in turn.
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Post by Moo on Apr 3, 2007 9:22:46 GMT
Like the GR moderator would have a clue how to do that.
I didn't know we were able to start with the orders yet. I'll get right on it.
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Post by Boony on Apr 3, 2007 9:25:00 GMT
We should have a webpage with the current top 10 rankings, and who's in who's stables, and stuff. If I get bored today, I might have a crack. Unlikely, though - I've got shiteloads of work to do :moop:
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 10:09:13 GMT
I think I already sent my June orders.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 3, 2007 11:56:38 GMT
You did Coffers. Boony's had his complete results now, so I think you're next Coffs. Expect a PM today.
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 13:24:55 GMT
So how many areas can we train each boxer in per month? Can we train in style areas as well as ability areas?
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 13:25:44 GMT
PS, I hope everyone else has boxers as bad as mine, because these look shoite. I pesume the higher the number in each area the better he is at that area?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 3, 2007 13:41:51 GMT
Yep, the higher the better. What I'll do is post a Regional level boxer and a Continental level boxer in the other thread, with their actual ratings, so that you're not so worried about how shite your guys currently are.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 3, 2007 13:53:05 GMT
You can train people in one area, Coffs. Pick a skill, other than chin and cuts and train them.
However, the effects of training are not limited to the skill you pick. If you pick to train Defence, the Defence skill might not "pop", but instead the boxer's ability against Technical fighters could improve. If you train Power, then your guy is going to spend a month punching the heavy bag and lifting weights, so his stamina might go up instead of his power.
Managers who have the development skill and pick "Defence" might see a very sudden change in their boxer - the defence skill going up much more quickly than by training, but the power skill could come down at the same time, to reflect the fact that you've "coached" the guy into changing his focus, rather than improving his ability.
Similarly with styles - coaching someone out of their comfort zone is going to rely on your Development skill and if you coach heavily toward the Jab and Move style, you might see the boxer become more comfortable there, but this might mean that their power drops and their defence improves. Similarly, if you coach toward a reckless, brawling style, you might see a more powerful boxer, taking more chances defensively.
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 14:02:16 GMT
Oh boy, this is going to be a riot and fooking confusing.
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 14:03:27 GMT
I presume that is one area per boxer per month, I think I read that in the rules somewhere?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 3, 2007 14:12:03 GMT
You can train yourself or train two boxers, yes. In different areas. Fooking confoosing is good, as it'll cover the fact that I don't necessarily always know what's going on. Once it's going, if you have any idea of added things to make it a laugh, then feel free to throw them out for discussion. Ultimately, I'm just looking for something that's a fun distraction from gazebo.
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 14:19:09 GMT
OK, July's instructions have been PMed. Purely for a laugh and to see what happens.
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Post by Boony on Apr 3, 2007 16:11:23 GMT
Squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak…
Either the mice are back, or Eamonn and Chloe are still banging away at each other next door. For a while, it was a pleasant distraction from the day-to-day grind of running a boxing gym, but since they found the webcam, it’s been a rather more frustrating experience. My broken nose, courtesy of the Irishman’s right hand, has done little to cheer me, and drinking in the Double Barrel has become a game of learning the barmaids’ shifts and avoiding the nights that Chloe has relinquished her new hobby of rejected-boxer-fucking to serve pints downstairs.
The noisy bed springs give me an advantage here, it has to be said.
On the boxing front, there is little to be said right now. During June, both Thorsted and Bacak were told to get their gloves on and spar. The results weren’t totally conclusive, but I think I know who’s going to win me most fights this year. I also know who I’m going to throw into the streets as soon as his initial contract is up, unless my second impressions are wildly inaccurate.
…squeak squeak squeak squeak…
The evening bar shift has started, and the springs are still active, so I know I’m safe to go for a drink tonight. The down-side is that I shall have to spend half an hour plastering myself in patches. The nicotine gum is fine during the day, but the taste really doesn’t mix well with beer. What I really want to know is, what will the pubs do with all their ashtrays?
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 16:21:57 GMT
They will sell them to ashtray collectors for a fiver each.
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Post by coffers on Apr 3, 2007 16:25:02 GMT
Meanwhile down at the Who The Fook's DonKing Jim Gym, Gadgie is contemplating hitting the bottle again, but has second thoughts and hits his so called Boxers instead.
The local media take his quotes that "this is what is needed to toughen the buggers up" as gospel, or a pinch of salt, depending upon how much of Gadgies whisky they have imbibed.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 4, 2007 14:32:14 GMT
Check the calendar thread for the first available card. Two regional spots are open, but you shouldn't feel compelled to put your fighter into them, as you haven't had time for pre-fight training.
If you want to put a fighter forward, list his name and his weight here and he will have a chance to get on the card.
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Post by Narcizo on Apr 4, 2007 14:36:44 GMT
Do we know anything about the opposing boxers? And are we going to get a bit more warning about future fights so we, like, have time to train properly and whatnot.
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Post by coffers on Apr 4, 2007 14:52:37 GMT
Will there be fight slots available every month? And what Nark says. If we need 2 months pre-fight training we need a couple of months fight calenders posted in advance I would suspect. I'm sure you are working on that though, when time permits.
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