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Post by Narcizo on Jun 28, 2007 11:08:35 GMT
Aye the point of Star Treks is that they jet around space finding new, shiny things which sort of made DS9 a bit pointless. Particularly as it seems to have started as an inferior Babylon 5 but without the story arc. However I am reliably informed that the latter series of it were the best Star Trek series EVAH (when they realised that if they're going to tip off Babylon 5 then they ought to try to use the story arc thingy as well.
Voyager was painfully bad it has to be said. And Enterprise (judging by the one episode I saw of it) horrendously bad as well as painfully bad.
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Post by meej on Jun 28, 2007 11:15:37 GMT
Finding, and humping, new shiny things.
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Post by floplexter on Jun 28, 2007 12:01:56 GMT
True, meej. There was always this beautiful idea of taking all the best characters from the various incarnations and melting them into one Super Trek.
It would get rid of the twats like Crusher, Riker and Greenaway in one fell swoop. I think DS9 had slightly less twats (just Dr Julian Bashir, the fop) than the others. It was a car park in space, but it was parked in the space equivalent of Gaza.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Jun 28, 2007 12:23:00 GMT
When I used to watch B5 I thought "this show would be great with Trek's budget" and when DS9 started going down a B5-style proper story arc it was pretty good. They just didn't do it enough.
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Post by floplexter on Jun 28, 2007 12:57:22 GMT
Never watched B5- I'm a real stickler for not watching stuff that I haven't seen from the start. And when you get to 37 series, that makes recap a bit of an issue. I was contemplating getting the new Galactica series'.
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Post by Moo on Jun 28, 2007 12:59:36 GMT
But now you have broadband, Pops.......
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Jun 28, 2007 13:01:57 GMT
The bits of Galactica I saw were passable, (if you can get by Starbuck being a chick), but the end of the most recent series had most of the Yanks I know going "z0mg! That was teh best ending evar!"
But Yanks are all silly, so who knows if it's worth watching or not.
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Post by floplexter on Jun 28, 2007 13:05:24 GMT
Well, yes, BoYo, broadband and joox.net was going to be the prefered delivery system. BT notwithstanding.
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Post by Narcizo on Jun 28, 2007 13:15:06 GMT
I saw an episode of BG and failed to see what all the kerfuffle was about. It alreet but not much more than that. And I am one to judge a series by one episode.
Challenger on TTH liked it though, I remember.
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Post by meej on Jun 28, 2007 15:50:34 GMT
Same here, it seems decent enough, but did not bowl me over.
I have all of B5, Pops, yours for the asking. The concept gets an A+, the actual turning it into a series it gets a C+: the first season is basically a extended dress rehearsal, then they had to cram all four seasons of the story arc into two seasons, and then they got extended for a fourth season they did not expect and turned episodic much like Star Trek.
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Post by floplexter on Jun 28, 2007 15:56:23 GMT
You have?
Will that not run to a gazillion discs? I am, of course, interested.
Oh, and V for Vendetta was the other I have been avoiding, by the way.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Jun 28, 2007 16:00:17 GMT
I thought V was ok. I don't think it was the film it thinks it was, but I enjoyed it.
One of a currentish run of films like Children of Men and 28 Weeks Later which has a Ben Elton "little bit of politics" in it, using a futuristic setting to have a stab at the current government.
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Post by meej on Jun 28, 2007 16:10:59 GMT
28 Weeks Later was shite. George Romero had more social commentary in his toenails that this whole film.
V was so-so. Not bad, just failed to "get it". Too clean by half, too overobvious, too much of that crappy ending with the characters with the masks and taking them off and me wanting to kick the director and writer in the gnads.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Jun 28, 2007 16:22:09 GMT
Aye - V aimed at something and missed, but it was passable enough.
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Post by Sonic on Jun 29, 2007 2:01:19 GMT
I felt let down after watching V for Vendetta. The rest was what you said above too.
I liked Children Of Men. I didn't mind Pan's Labyrinth. Shrek The Third was a disappointment when you compare it to the other two, though it wasn't that bad on the whole.
I never got into the Trek serieses, though Red Dwarf was one I did. Until the last couple.
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Post by elth on Jun 29, 2007 3:37:31 GMT
I don't think I've seen a single film mentioned in the past 5 pages of this thread :humb:
I liked Gallactica, I'd probably rent/thieve the series rather than buy though, it's not that good.
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Post by meej on Jun 29, 2007 7:13:58 GMT
V blindsided me by being actually good; I mean, they did the "Hollywood-movie-ripping-out-all-qualities-that-made-major-characters-interesting", but it remained more than decent despite its inordinate length. They even managed to get the "I killed you ten minutes ago" bit nailed down. The ending was crud, however, and made me think inevitably in how easy it'd have been to make a vastly better movie just by avoiding a few mandatory Hollywood cliches. It was a bit of a let down.
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Post by coffers on Jun 29, 2007 7:39:56 GMT
V blindsided me by being actually good; ............. It was a bit of a let down. Does that mean it was a good let down?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Jun 29, 2007 7:58:05 GMT
Meej said a film was good and I smited him for it.
We're through the looking glass.
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Post by meej on Jun 29, 2007 8:02:40 GMT
I walked into it, admitedly.
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Post by hornet on Jun 29, 2007 16:26:03 GMT
When Babylon 5 is good, it's very, very good. When it's bad, it's Star Trek with worse sets and tons more self-importance. I was bowled over by it at the time, but on re-watching there's a lot of stuff in there that hasn't weathered well. The Centauri haircuts remain fantastic, however.
The first two series of "new" Battlestar Galactica are up and down like the Assyrian Empire. There's a lot of padding in there, it's far too willing to have its characters do brain-bogglingly stupid things in the service of advancing a storyline and the relentless po-facedness grinds on me a bit. For all its faults, you couldn't throw a stone without hitting a memorable character in B5. Galactica has Starbuck, Dmitar Berbatov's long-lost cousin Gauis Baltar and, er, that's it. Even Adama is roughly 40% as awesome as he should be given that he's being played by Edward James Freaking Olmos. All that said, it looks largely lovely, and hits the occasional storyline for a massive 6 right out of the ground.
V For Vendetta might have been OK. It definitely had its moments. I couldn't get past the fact that I'd seen the same story told better in the comic, though, so the santisation of the plot annoyed me more than it probably should have done.
I haven't seen 28 Weeks Later, but I saw 28 Days Later again recently and liked it much more than I did first time around. Possibly I'm a big wuss, but I found it genuinely unnerving and the opening few minutes, with Cilian Murphy walking around the deserted streets of London, are really well done.
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Post by Fuzzy on Jul 2, 2007 10:52:52 GMT
I actually saw about seven minutes of Cool as Ice, as it was on ITV17 or some such at about 2am and I went flying past it on the remote and had to back up a couple of channels because I was like "Dude! Sherilyn Fenn!" I then had to wait through some stupidly long shot of Ice looking pensive on a yellow motorcycle before they cut back to the chick and it wasn't Fenn at all. I didn't see any crazy dance moves. youtube.com/watch?v=KyMBjBBNSV4 Around 1:33. Stole these links from somewhere, but it's kinda funny. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBFn9Pkcj6AOk, I forgot the rest. Here's another: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOw2yWMSfk
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Post by floplexter on Jul 3, 2007 9:16:55 GMT
Scotland's Latest Hero: www.johnsmeaton.comClass act. Scroll down and watch the BBC initial interview. He got better later as he got into his stride too, but those links seem to have been removed.
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Post by floplexter on Jul 3, 2007 16:34:46 GMT
This made me wet myself:
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Post by coffers on Jul 3, 2007 21:15:54 GMT
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