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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 4, 2007 15:11:03 GMT
Yes, cards will be posted out to about six months in the future, with multiple gaps, some of which will have both sides open, so that you can ask for specific opponents.
Right now you don't know too much about the other boxers, so you won't know about the two sitting on the July card.
Fights are considered to happen at the end of the month, so you can fight train for July and get on the card too, with one month of preparation. This means that to get three months of fight training for a July fight, you start preparing the boxer in May.
Each card with have between three and six fights on it, at least one of which will be at each level. So there'll be at least one regional fight every month, which you may or may not manage to get on to.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 11:44:22 GMT
More cards added to the calendar.
The opponents for the open spots on the July card will be filled today, so if you're not gong to fight, then send in your July orders. I've had a couiple so far.
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Post by Narcizo on Apr 10, 2007 11:59:19 GMT
Is there any way we can "scout" the potential opponents?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 12:18:58 GMT
You can watch them fight. I think their trainers might notice if you show up in their gym to watch them train.
"I just popped in to use the loo!"
Don't forget, if you want to put a fighter forward for an open spot, do it here, not in a PM.
Also don't forget that you can "Fight Train" and Fight in the same month. So if you wanted to go for a September fight, for example, you could fight train this month, in august and then in september and then fight in september.
Three months is the average "ideal" for fight training, but training in August and September for a September fight would also be ok... some of the very fit fighters might prefer two months, as would some of the fat buggers, who don't want to train too much, as it detracts from their pie-eating time.
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Post by coffers on Apr 10, 2007 12:28:33 GMT
Ok in that case; I'll put Largin forward for the heavyweight bout in September and Karapetyan wants a shot at the lightweight slots. August and September training will be Fight Training for both obviously. :humb:
Let's see what they are made of.
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Post by Narcizo on Apr 10, 2007 12:37:33 GMT
I thought you said two months was ideal fight training time.
Anyway, I'll put Greene up for the September fight against Pliny. The Welsh twat.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 12:39:48 GMT
And just because Coffs has put his fighters forward, doesn't mean that you can't, for the same fight. Manager Reputation, Fighter Exposure and Luck will all play a part in who gets on the card if two fighters want the same spot.
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Post by coffers on Apr 10, 2007 12:45:45 GMT
Yeah Nark, I remember him saying 2 months was ideal. So what's this 3 month stuff then Stu?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 12:53:10 GMT
A problem with wording. The ideal would be fight training for two months before the fight, because you fight train in the month you fight too.
In the example given in the info thread, a july fight would see you pick fight training in may and june, then fight train and fight in july.
So if you want to train just two months, you can fight train in june and then fight train and fight in july. Some fit and young fighters will be fine with two months, as will some old geezers who have been around for a while.
Some fat fuckers or lzy bostords will need four months.
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Post by Boony on Apr 10, 2007 13:00:34 GMT
Please can I put Bacak and Thorsted up for the lightweight and heavyweight bouts in September?
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Post by coffers on Apr 10, 2007 13:17:27 GMT
Ah right, with you now stu. I'll stick with it then and trust that my ejits are fit, healthy and up to the rigouors of runing away from other peoples fists. :humb:
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Post by Moo on Apr 10, 2007 14:31:26 GMT
I'll put forward Heutmacher for the September Middleweight fight.
Another question for you.... if you put forward two fighters for bouts in one particular month and you are lucky enough to be accepted for both, who chooses which fighter gets to fight? I ask because I am sure I read that you can only have one of your boxers fighting in any particular month.....
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Post by coffers on Apr 10, 2007 14:35:48 GMT
Ianteresting point Moo, how quickly do we know if they are accepted then, as it might change training plans for one or more face slappers?
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Post by Moo on Apr 10, 2007 14:41:08 GMT
From here...... General ActionsA manager may not train himself while a boxer is in pre-fight training and may not manage two different boxes fighting in the same month, although they may fight in consecutive months, so Pre-Fight training overlaps.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 14:56:25 GMT
Ok, so each boxer has a chance to get on the card that is at it's heart; Your Reputation + His Exposure + Luck + Random number. This gives your boxer a score for that month which will be used to measure him against other boxers from the same weight class.
So, as you say, this could lead to the position where you "win" the rolls for a Heavyweight fight and you have the only Middleweight put forward that month and lookie... you now have two "winners."
In this instance, it'll come down to my choice. If one of them is a mandatory title defence, obviously that's a must. Similarly if the fight is a title eliminator, to line up a title shot.
If one of them fought three months ago and the other guy hasn't fought for much longer, then the one with more recent action will miss out. If they both have similar recent activites, then the more interesting fighter will win out. If I can't decide, then I'll random roll it.
If you do end up with two winners though, then I'll PM you to let you know and give you a Get Out of Jail Free card, which will buy you an automatic place on a future card.
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Post by Moo on Apr 10, 2007 14:59:25 GMT
OK cheers, Stu. And in light of this information, I'm sticking with what I said earlier, the other guy isn't ready for anything other than making tea at the moment. I have another question. With regards to the new group of fighters released in January, do we get a month's notice as to who is becoming available? And do we get a chance to scout them or something, for instance like you would do with Helmetball draftees?
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Post by Moo on Apr 10, 2007 15:01:16 GMT
To be honest, I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, so just ignore that question. I'm sure there's other bits of this you want sorted out before the January influx. (You can probably guess by my question, but I think I made a mistake with one of those I rejected, after reviewing your PM. )
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Post by coffers on Apr 10, 2007 15:04:30 GMT
I might have made a mistake on the rejection front too, but hey ho.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 10, 2007 15:08:30 GMT
Yes, there'll be a bunch of fighters that appear in December. Some will be club boxers, some will be total unknowns and some will be fresh from the Olympic or World games and will be well known and probably higher skilled.
Some, mostly unknowns, will be exclusive to your gym, while the more famous guys will be looking for the best offer.
You'll be able to invite a certain number to your gym for workouts and then we'll have a bidding session.
So, for example, Amir Khan appears fresh from an Olympic Silver Medal, wanting one of you highly-skilled trainers to take him under your wing. So now it's offer time - what are you going to do for him in his one year contract? You might say "I'll get you three fights this year, get your exposure up to 12 and get you a title eliminator at the regional level..."
Someone else might say "I'll get you a title shot this year."
If you fulfill your promise, the boxer is then more likely to re-sign with you for the next year.
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Post by Narcizo on Apr 10, 2007 19:19:14 GMT
I thought fight card decisions were first come first served unless luck comes into play. This here method you're mooting now seems far too sensible and realistic. Stop it right this instant.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 11, 2007 19:02:58 GMT
Ok, so if I have this right, the following boxers are interested in the September bouts :
Heavyweight : Humberto Thorsted (Boony) Royal Largin (Coffs)
Middleweight : Fabian Heutmacher (moo) Emil Bacak (Boony) Robert Greene (Narkle)
Lightweight : Lucien Karapetyan (Coffs)
Boo asked for Bacak to be put in the Lightweight fights, which would be cheating, as he's a middleweight, so he's in there.
I've orders for July from everyone but elth, but will decide who gets onto the September fight card and announce that and then people can change their orders if they like.
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Post by elth on Apr 11, 2007 22:37:04 GMT
Arturo Salz for a November fight please.
Orders in shortly.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Apr 16, 2007 17:58:35 GMT
Ok, all can now be revealed for the upcoming cards.
In September, Matt Stockwell will face Boony's Humbert Thorsted in a regional heavyweight bout. Narkle's Robert Greene will take part in a middleweight bout against Pliny Silva and Coffers' Lucien Karapetyan will fight in a lightweight bout against an opponent yet to be decided.
elth's lightweight Arturo Salz fights in November, against an opponent yet to be decided.
Missing out on the September card are Coffers' heavyweight Royal Largin and Moo's middleweight Fabian Heutmacher.
Feel free to change your July orders based on this. The July fights have taken place. The orders will be triggered as soon as I have all of them. Scouting notes from the July fights, (see the "Fight Nights" thread), will be sent out to those with the scouting skill.
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Post by coffers on Apr 16, 2007 18:59:21 GMT
Will probably change July training Stu, but I need to think about it.
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Post by Boony on Apr 17, 2007 11:32:44 GMT
Can I try and put Bacak in for the middleweight fight in November. Possibly against Moo's middleweight?
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