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Post by hornet on Nov 13, 2008 13:43:09 GMT
Rounders is a good film. Apart from John's russian accent. And I know eat Oreos as standard. Rounders is a good film apart from the completely unbelievable bit where Mike knocks back a totally-up-for-it Famke Janssen, you mean. Malkovich's accent is the stuff of legend, you fool. "In maaaaai faaaaaaaaaacking claab I vill splaaaash ze pot as maaaaach as I faaaaaaaaaacking vell laaaaaaike!"
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Post by Moo on Nov 13, 2008 13:50:09 GMT
She wasn't all that.
OK, I lied.
But I still eat Oreos. After listening to them, natch.
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Post by Moo on Nov 17, 2008 8:46:31 GMT
Speaking of easy money (nice hex, Moo, ye fooker) I was on the Gutshot site on Saturday and they have "Double Up" tables. Basically, 10 man SNGs where you get five money finishes, hence doubling up. Obv, you pay your admin fee, so it's not strictly double up, but you get the drift. Play ABC poker and you make the last five. I played four and cashed four on Saturday, playing nothing but sensibly. Even though you only need to finish 5th, there are still some idiots trying to finish in 1st and get all the chips, raising from anywhere with anything. I just sit back and let them. So yeah, the $2 double ups have gone well and there are $5 ones as well, so I might venture that way next weekend. I also played an MTT and cashed again, although only just, but still, money back.
I wonder how my sharkscope graph looks now...
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Post by DC on Nov 17, 2008 15:02:52 GMT
Cliquey poofs.
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Post by Moo on Nov 18, 2008 9:58:21 GMT
Quite. So there went my plan for last night, as 6 newcomers came last night, totalling 18 players over two tables. Any chance I had for playing in any sort of way was blown out of the water, as I saw connected cards and low pairs having to face a significant raise before them, thus folding. With blinds at 25/50 in the first level, raises of 400-500 were common and the 2000 starting chips aren't enough to go chasing with 7-8 suited. So I was left with three hands where I was involved in any manner. AQ soooted one before the button and I raise 3xBB to be called by the button who had been very active and aggressive throughout and his chips were up and down more than a whore's knickers. He called and the blinds, noticing that this was my first hand played in 20 minutes both folded. Flop of 774 and I led out for 700 with the pot at 950, leaving me with 825 behind. He called and the turn was a Jack, with a flush draw now on the board, so I put a feeler of 300 in to indicate I wanted him in the hand, which he called. The river was a 3, making a low straight if he held 5-6, which I thought unlikely, so I checked thinking he would. He bet 1000 into a pot of ~3000 and I just couldn't pull the trigger with ace high, so folded. He showed me 9-5 offsuit for a complete bluff. Very annoying. Then of course with just over 500 left, I had to shove and found nothing until my BB with KJ, I was called twice, by a QJ and a K9 and of course the 9 hit. Then after the "rebuy" was in, two players went all-in, both for 1100 (blinds at 200/400) and I had JJ, so called. K5 and KT both hit a K and split my bet. Of course with 400 left, I went in blind on the next hand, got called by Stewpot and his KT beat my Ten high so I went out in about 13th. Stewpot played well enough to finish 8th and Vince played very well indeed to finish 2nd behind the 9-5 bluffer who, in all honesty, wasn't great, but seemed to hit cards. And as a wise man once said "It's better to be lucky than be good".
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Post by hornet on Nov 18, 2008 13:22:37 GMT
Ouch. Painful, but people madly over-betting in the early blind levels has to be a good thing in the long run.
Tough break with the AQ. What was your thinking re: the big bet on the flop? Were you planning on moving in on the turn but thought better of it?
Sounds like you got caught a bit between two stools. The 774 was incredibly unlikely to have hit him, and you already had a pot that represented more than 50% of your stack - I'd have seriously considered pushing at that point, and good luck to him if he had a 7 in his hand.
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Post by DC on Nov 18, 2008 13:27:56 GMT
I'd have just twatted him and taken his money.
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Post by Moo on Nov 18, 2008 14:01:29 GMT
TBH, Hornet, I didn't think he would have called the big bet on the flop. I raised pre-flop and threw a chunk at the flop, I thought that it would have frightened him off, but apparently not. So I purposely put a feeler bet in there to indicate that I wanted him there, hoping he would think "Hang on... that's suspicious" and somoene even said more or less that out loud.
That was annoying, but the most annoying thing of last night was how any time I had something I thought I could do something with, there was action before me and the hands weren't strong enough to go up against it.
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Post by Moo on Nov 19, 2008 8:37:38 GMT
Don't laugh, but I'm re-reading Harrington Vol I. Chapter 2 - hand 5... stop being a pussy.
I've decided that I played the AQ hand terribly. If I was so sure that an aggressive player was chasing or had nothing, why didn't I push and put him to a decision? Answer - because I'm a pussy.
Here endeth the lesson.
I'll know for next Monday.
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Post by coffers on Nov 19, 2008 9:31:58 GMT
:thumb:
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Post by hornet on Nov 19, 2008 12:25:49 GMT
I've decided that I played the AQ hand terribly. If I was so sure that an aggressive player was chasing or had nothing, why didn't I push and put him to a decision? Yeah, that was sort've my point. If you weren't sure, a smaller continuation bet would have given you the same information while still being able to get out of the hand without committing most of your stack. The big flop bet wasn't really one thing or t'other, as far as I can see. Anyway. Last week of the season last night, and I'd qualified top of the venue even before the game started. Still kept up my good run of results with another 3rd (2nd in the cash game), largely a result of staying out of trouble and either raising pre-flop or throwing my hand away - I think I only limped about 3 times all night. The final is Saturday week in Hell's Elbow, which is at least a lot easier to get to than the last couple (Bolton and Northampton).
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Post by elth on Nov 19, 2008 12:43:17 GMT
I always lose when I raise pre-flop :moop:
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Nov 19, 2008 14:00:54 GMT
I signed up for the new(ish) pkr.com site last night to see if a poker place with 3d graphics would be filled with numpties more interested in flirting with the chick in the blue dress with the dodgy French accent than playing actual cards and it turns out that no matter where you sign up, "play money" games are annoying.
Early on I got stuck at a table with three raise-monkeys who would end up playing their own stupid game of raise-raise-raise-raise-raise-raise-all in-raise-raise-all in-call before the flop and then just call in more chips when they burned out, which meant I ended up playing about one hand in the half an hour I hung out there. It wasn't worth paying to see the flop unless you had a high pocket pair.
Play money accounts should come with a 24 hour timeout if you run out of chips, but I guess that doesn't serve the purpose of the site who want you there as much as possible.
Still, the character I created was an Australian, (with a large grey afro), so I got to hear the comedy accent say "Ahh fauld" a lot and the not-at-all-stereotypical "G'day cobber!" whenever a new player showed up.
Later I found a decent table and hung about long enough to confirm my opinion that I'm nowhere near the poker player I'd like to be, going with feel and instinct rather too often, which means that any decent player reading pot odds and types and timings of bets would probably clean me out.
So it's lucky there was none of that going on, as I started the night with $800 and finished with ~$4,600.
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Post by Moo on Nov 19, 2008 14:03:04 GMT
So you got an advance on your wages as well as extra hols in this new job?
I hate you.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Nov 19, 2008 14:09:37 GMT
Play money, Moo.
I guess I could buy a night with Barbie with it.
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Post by Moo on Nov 19, 2008 14:17:35 GMT
Play money is for girls. Girls and Australians.
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Post by DC on Nov 19, 2008 14:22:27 GMT
I just presumed the statement of hatred was general topic, nothing to do with the play money. How silly do I feel now?
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Post by Moo on Nov 24, 2008 13:04:15 GMT
Speaking of easy money (nice hex, Moo, ye fooker) I was on the Gutshot site on Saturday and they have "Double Up" tables. Basically, 10 man SNGs where you get five money finishes, hence doubling up. Obv, you pay your admin fee, so it's not strictly double up, but you get the drift. Play ABC poker and you make the last five. Friday... played one, lost one. :thumb: However I did manage to make the final table of a $5 MTT too. 101 entrants and I finished in tenth for just under $12. Had a couple of bad beats, but was happy with the final table finish.
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Post by Moo on Nov 24, 2008 13:05:39 GMT
Oh and I'll be off to the pub tonight to play, so I'll have a chance to prove that I'm better than Jac Arama after all. Almost finished reading Harrington Vol 1, so I should be able to forget everything in the hour from getting off the bus to getting to the pub.
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Post by Moo on Nov 25, 2008 9:54:40 GMT
In your face Jac Arama!!1! 2nd. PLayed OK in the first hour, didn't get into any trouble and made a couple of good laydowns, but found myself moved to the merged table with only 850 chips from a start of 2000. (What they do in this league is merge the tables when you get down to two tables of four, then split them back out again with the "rebuy". I think it's daft, but what do I know.) With blinds at 100/200, it was time to make a move, so on the second hand at the table, I found KJ in early position and despite it being a very average hand at a table of eight, I went all in and got called by AK. I hit my J on the turn and after an apology, doubled up. With a little bit leeway, I managed to get it all in on the button, when some doofus went all in from early for about 2500 (waaay too much), to be called by someone next to me. I looked at KK and pushed also. I tripled up when doofus turned over 67 soooooted on a steal and the caller had QJ. No I don't know either. I hit a third K which settled me down after a Jack hit the flop. I left that table to go back with about 5800 after getting the rebuy of 1500. I played a little more aggressively when back at the original table, with blinds of 200/400 scaring people off their blinds. Last week's winner was irked twice in a row when I min-raised his blind, once with AJ which I showed, then with 7-5 which I also showed. He wasn't a happy bunny. Back to the main table with nine there, including Stewpot who I thought played well again, with a smallish stack in comparison of about 7k. There were a few notable hands which I shall try to explain to you: 1. Folded to me on the SB, I have ~7000, villain in BB has ~5000, blinds (I think) were 300/600. I look at 2-3 diamonds and min-raise to steal. I got a call and I'm in trouble. However, Villain seems to know what he's doing and didn't seem to go in with trash hands, any Ace or a couple of picture cards are standard playing hands, but I never saw anything trashy. The flop came K-T with a rag card which might have been a 6. I checked and so did Villain, so I thought he didn't like the K, he would have bet out as he was going down in chips, maybe about 3k left with the pot at 2400. My intention was bet out at the turn if a scary card came, so when the K dropped, I immediately pushed with my 6k. He agonised for a good minute or so and showed me the Ten, so I scooped the pot and showed the 2-3. He looked for the flush draw and when he didn't see it, smiled. I probably shouldn't have shown it. But I did say to him "I don't do that normally", intending to tell him and the others that were paying attention that I'm not as rocky as they thought. 2. Old Villain had been raising a lot of pots, but only showing his Ace-rag or above hands and making sure you saw what he was showing you. The "I'll show you this once..." was his standard line. I knew he wasn't hitting every time, but he did seem to be getting a fair few hands. Blinds were on the up, we're down to four player, I get 8-9 clubs on the button. I elected to call rather than raise, knowing he would raise it up on his BB, he did and I insta-pushed for my remaining stack. To be fair, it was an easy call for him, but I figured I had two live cards if he called with his Ace and they were soooooooted after all. What could go wrong? He turned AJ. I hit an 8 on the flop though and doubled through him. He wasn't happy and made a point of telling me. "Two live cards though, I had to go with them...." which was his other stock phrase, was my cheeky response. Sure I got lucky on that one, but karma would return.... 3. With three left, we had Tourney Director (TD) on the button, me on SB and Old Villain (OV) on the BB. Blinds were up to 1000/2000 and I had about 12k. TD must have had about 25k, with OV on about 14k or so. TD called the BB, I looked down at A3. I almost, almost pushed there, but saw OV reaching for his chips, so had myself a moment, thought about what Dan Harrington said about that and folded my Ace. One of the other lads who had been sat next to me asked to see my cards (he'd been looking a few times) and I said "not yet", as I wanted to see what OV had after putting a raise of 6k in to make it 8k. The TD called it and there was a big pot. I showed mine to the young lad and he just looked at me as if I was mental. The money went in and both showed a higher Ace than mine and the lad smiled at me. 4. As I hadn't put any money into the pot, I was just playing for points and there was just me and TD heads up. He was about a 3-1 chip leader, so I was being quite aggressive with the blinds up to 4k/8k. He was being very passive and when I pushed with 8-3 from the SB, he folded his BB face up, a K showing. I was astonished, as was two of the others watching and they gave him short shrift. A few hands later (blinds now at 5k/10k - the highest they've been at the venue) and with him actively giving me his SBs, I thought that he was in front on the count, but I had taken a slight lead with ~26k to ~24k. I look at AK on the SB and before I have a chance to say anything, he announces all-in. His mate (who I know from school) thought that I had said it, so was counting my chips for me. I told him off for jumping the gun and the TD too, so gave it the Hollywood. I then said I was all-in and he then thought about it and for some reason showed 2-3 soooted. Two live cards..... a 2 on the turn and I was down to 2k. Not even a SB. I lost the last hand too, despite having a King. Gutted at the end, as I think I played well enough to win it, but I guess that a couple of suckouts earlier came back to get me. 80 points though, so I was quite happy with that.
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Post by coffers on Nov 25, 2008 10:55:55 GMT
Nice work Moo. :thumb:
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Post by Moo on Nov 25, 2008 11:28:10 GMT
Cheers Coffers.
For those of you who are in the Vince fan club, you'll notice he wasn't mentioned in the above post. There are two reasons for that. The first is that he wasn't able to play due to work commitments, the second is that he's a twat.
:thumb:
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Post by hornet on Nov 25, 2008 11:42:32 GMT
Nicely done, Mr. Moo. Got the run of the green a couple of times, but that's got to happen if you're going to do well in these things.
Doesn't hurt to have advertised that you're the sort of player who'll move with 75 off, either. People are still talking about that 24 that I went all-in with 2 weeks ago, despite the fact that it's literally the second time in 9 months I've made that move. Awesome, means I'm more likely to get paid when I push with the sort of hands I normally push with.
No game tonight - final on Saturday, so it's the semis this week that I don't need to play. I'm going to try and get some play online over the next few days just to keep my eye in.
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Post by Moo on Nov 25, 2008 12:34:29 GMT
I came out of the pub smiling, shaking my head and just saying "2 fooking 3!" over and over. Really enjoyed it though, not because I finished 2nd, but because it proved to the missus (and myself) that I do actually know what I'm doing sometimes. I still think that the early part of the game is where I'm weakest. Give me chips and I can play. If I'm low, I struggle a little bit. I think I need to get better with my hand reading too. I was a lot better with board texture though last night, as the outrageous 2-3 all in with the Kings showing tells you.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Nov 25, 2008 12:40:12 GMT
Nicely done sir! When are you going to be at Foxwoods?
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