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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 15:42:47 GMT
[glow=red,90,890]ORBIS NON SUFFICIT[/glow]An exercise in foolishness starring : Jez Bandersley Chapter One : It's Nobody's Business... Team : Gaziantep Büyük§ehir Belediyespor Location : Turkish second division. Started : 17 October 2000. Ended : 8 May 2001. Situation : Bottom. Seven points adrift of safety with eight games to play. Prediction : Doomed. The story : Slowly closed the gap to the team above us and ended the first part of the season off the bottom. The "Classification Group" to decide who was relegated featured inconsistent performances, but we finally hunted down the teams above us and had made fifth with two games to play when Turkish giants Besiktas gave me a huge novelty cheque to go to Istanbul. Chapter Two : The Bernard Matthews Tour Continues Team : Be§ikta§ Jimnastik Kulübü Location : Turkish second division. Started : 8 May 2001. Ended : Situation : Fourth with only two games to play, making it difficult to finish anywhere other than fourth. But I have a lot of cash to slosh about. Prediction : Will depend on how willing big names are to come to Istanbul. The story : THREAD CLIFFSNOTESWhat just happened? After saving Gaziantep Büyük§ehir Belediyespor from what appeared to be certain doom, Turkish behemoths Besiktas show up and throw an unnecessary amount of cash at me. Despite losing to Galatasary and Fenerbahçe we enter 2002 at the top of the table.[/i]" What players should I look out for?German Markus Münch appears to be the man but I feel slightly dirty listing a fullback as my best player. Turkish forward Ahmet Dursun is very dangerous on a good day. What's next?Hopefully fight off Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe and seal a domestic title in only my second season in the game.[/font][/size]
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 15:42:53 GMT
Yes I got the bug again. Stupid relay game. But if I'm going to get bugged, I'm going to do it properly. All leagues on. All sub-divisions on. All the pots on the table, all the cups on the girls. It turns out that there's no way to start unemployed in 00/01, so I phone up some Germans looking for a chancer to take the reigns, say I'll take the job and then hang up and fax them my resignation letter. Let's see you beat that, Mr Keegan. Nine months later that's not looking like such a good idea. I've sent my CV through to 38 different clubs, ranging from the Kansas City Wizards to the Bury, err, Berries and been knocked back by everyone. Still, at least I can spend the summer working on my tan. Or my coaching badges. It's a tough choice. Finally I get the chance to find another exciting feature in 00/01 when Turkish side Gaziantep Büyük§ehir Belediyespor offer me a job, my assistant automatically accepts it, but then doesn't tell me about it, meaning I'm managing the team by laying on a beach in a purple Speedo in the south of France, admiring the ladies and dodging Greenpeace efforts to release me back into the wild. Before I notice I'm getting paycheques again my assistant has already applied for two more jobs since I landed this one, meaning the Giantstep Books for Hire Invalid Sport, (or somehing), board are already annoyed with me. If she wasn't Miss Belarus 1998, I'd probably fire her. Finding Turkish newspapers on the Mediterranean coast of France is actually easier than you'd imagine. Turning to the back page I see the current Turksih Second Division, Group One table. Group 1
Pos Team Pld Won Drn Lst For Ag Won Drn Lst For Ag Pts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st Dardanelspor 10 6 0 0 15 5 2 1 1 7 4 25 2nd Büyüksehir Bld. Spor 10 5 0 1 12 3 3 0 1 10 3 24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3rd Karabükspor 11 3 1 2 13 10 1 3 1 8 9 16 4th Kartalspor 10 4 1 0 11 4 0 2 3 8 13 15 5th Sakaryaspor 10 3 1 1 8 9 1 2 2 12 16 15 6th Bakirköyspor 10 1 3 0 6 4 2 1 3 9 12 13 7th Sariyer 11 0 3 2 8 12 3 0 3 7 6 12 8th M. Idman Yurdu 10 2 0 4 5 9 1 1 2 6 6 10 9th Konyaspor 10 0 1 3 5 9 3 0 3 5 7 10 10th G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor 10 1 0 3 7 9 0 0 6 2 14 3 So all I have to do is close a seven point gap in eight games with a team that has avoided defeat only once in ten attempts; that happening in the season's first game, meaning they're on a nine-game tailspin. I suspect I'm going to be working on the tan again, very soon.
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Post by Boony on Sept 19, 2008 15:49:37 GMT
Ah, you took the plunge! How's the speed of the game? What the hell is that name all about? And, good luck closing that gap Do you have an aim, or will you float aimlessly?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 15:51:33 GMT
I don't know. When you shorten a name massively and still end up with "G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor" it might by time to think of a nickname for the team.
Like "Steve."
I am aimless. An aim might coalesce in the future, dependent on events, but for now I expect I'll be clawing around for an opportunity with a team that aren't already laying down with a tag on their toe.
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Post by Boony on Sept 19, 2008 15:56:27 GMT
Fair enough. What nationality is Jez? The good news is that you've got five home games left, and only three away...
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 15:57:40 GMT
As per, Jez is Oirish.
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Post by Sonic on Sept 19, 2008 16:11:15 GMT
That's a hilarious start. Though the speedo's need a bit of work with the tan not seeming to rub off on them.
8 games in a do or die? Living on the edge man. Living. On. The, edge.
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Post by floplexter on Sept 19, 2008 18:07:31 GMT
I like Steve.
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Post by floplexter on Sept 19, 2008 18:08:03 GMT
Does "Orbis non sufficit" mean "Not enough balls"?
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 19:56:11 GMT
October 2000 Of we go then. We've no time for training or any of that other FA Coaching badge bullshit, it's just straight into a game. Things are a bit rushed, but I guess that's what I get for showing up to work five days late. I make a note to spank Oksana later. I'd picked the team based purely on who'd been playing well up to that point, but that left me with one or two gaps. Well, eleven gaps actually, but that's to be expected from a team that hasn't led a football game for 810 minutes now. So then I moved on to picking the team based on who's been less laughably poor and sent that collection of cloggers out to face Büyük§ehir Belediye Spor... hang on a minute... Gaziantep Büyük§ehir Belediyespor versus Büyük§ehir Belediye Spor. Not only are they our twin, but they're clearly our evil twin, as shown by the fact that they're top of the table and we're... not. Further proof that they're top of the table and we're not came as soon as we kicked off, the other lot taking exactly six minutes to take the lead through a header from Ergun Erkan. The scoring attempts kept coming too, as our twins racked up 8 shots on goal in the first half and were kept out only by Tarakci Kaya earning his money with a furious effort in goal. Then, in the second half, a beautiful thing happened. They were hammering away at us still when we broke down the right and the ball dropped to the impressively named substitute Canbülbül Mustafa Sefik who lobbed the opponent's keeper from 40 yards in the 90th minute. As you do when you're the bottom team in the division. The other Büyük§ehirs were stunned and we'd stolen a point from the top team in the division. A week later, we did it again, away from home against Konyaspor. They scored in the first half, but a second half fightback scored us grab a late equaliser, on 78 minutes this time. Sahin Salih was the scorer, which made me feel good, as I'd only just bought him. Two points from two games and we'd doubled our longest undefeated streak of the season. Unfortunately, everyone else at the bottom had been drawing too, so we're still seven points behind, only with two fewer games to go now. Group 1 Pos Team Pld Won Drn Lst For Ag Won Drn Lst For Ag Pts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st Büyüksehir Bld. Spor 12 5 0 1 12 3 3 2 1 12 5 26 2nd Dardanelspor 12 6 1 0 16 6 2 1 2 8 6 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3rd Kartalspor 12 5 1 0 12 4 0 2 4 9 16 18 4th Sakaryaspor 12 4 1 1 10 10 1 2 3 15 20 18 5th Bakirköyspor 12 1 4 0 6 4 3 1 3 12 12 17 6th Karabükspor 12 3 1 3 13 13 1 3 1 8 9 16 7th M. Idman Yurdu 12 3 0 4 9 12 1 2 2 6 6 14 8th Konyaspor 12 1 2 3 9 11 3 0 3 5 7 14 9th Sariyer 12 0 3 2 8 12 3 0 4 7 7 12 10th G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor 12 1 1 3 8 10 0 1 6 3 15 5
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Post by Moo on Sept 19, 2008 20:12:51 GMT
i see the relegation tour is starting early this year. and i'm thankful i'm not part of it.
KUTGW! :thumb:
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 19, 2008 23:17:36 GMT
November 2000 Managing in Turkey appears to be some form of musical chairs. I noticed a couple of managers being booted out in October, but then when another bunch went in the first week of November I decided to start keeping count. Since I took over in the third week of October there have now been 11, 14 16 managers sacked, including one guy who was sacked the day after I outbid him for a player and one team who sacked two different managers in the space of eleven days. One manager resigned, I presume to avoid being sacked. Still, I still have a job, and the Boonster noted quite adroitly, there's no line at the bottom of the table, so finishing last probably won't doom me to the unemployment queue after all. Of course, this is quite confusing as the board told me they expectd the team to stear clear of relegation. Perhaps that's a little Turkish board joke. After our two brave draws to close out October, we open November on the road to 2nd placed Dardanelspor and really don't offer much at all as we drop to a 1-0 defeat without forcing the home side to break a sweat. Fortunately, Sariyer in 9th also lose, so the gap stays at 7 points. Which is handy, as we play Sariyer next, in a real six pointer. Straight into the side goes Küçük Hüseyin, a striker who was rating an 8.33 in very limited opportunities for his second division club. I outbid another team for him and their manager is fired the next day. For 90 minutes, this looks every bit the "relegation" battle it is, as the two teams knock seven bells out of each other in a performance that can be described with the words grit, commitment and, err, woeful. Words that aren't used are graceful, skillful and get in you beautiful fucker! At least not until the 93rd minute, when newboy Hüseyin beats two men, sprints into the box and rockets a shot into the top corner. We've... won... a game of football. The board are over the moon at this turn of events and a week later they're having a Lemon Party in the boardroom as we see in 8th placed Mersin Idman Yurdu and then see them out again with a 2-1 win, thanks to goals from Hüseyin again and fellow forward Toraman Ibrahim. Ibrahim is a forward playing AMC, as our new signing at AMC; Bastürk Nihat is out with his strained knee. We're suddenly just one point behind ninth and have three games left - Away to 3rd, then two games at home, against 5th and then 4th... easy. The final game of November is that road trip to 3rd, to face Bakirköyspor and we're off to a somewhat shocking but brilliant start as Ibrahim runs half the length of the field with the ball and strokes it home for 1-0. Bakirköyspor wake up at that, as you'd expect, and cane forward, forcing several good saves from Tarakçi Kaya. On 17 minutes we can't hold out any longer as forward Tabak Aydin dives in the box and fools the ref, earning a penalty and a booking for Sahin Salih for arguing. Aydin fires home the spot kick, but karma is balanced almost immediately when Aydin is tackled from behind and has to go off, injured. At half time I haven't got much to do, as our defensive counter is about all I can offer, so I just send the boys back out with a request for more of the same. A request that's answered by Ibrahim as he dribbles around most of Bakirköyspor's defence again to stick home his second and we lead 2-1... What follows is half an hour of non-stop, one-way traffic, but the home side just can't break down our defence and we hold on for a fantastic three points! We're off the bottom! ----------------------------------------------------------- Bingy Bangy Belly Spongy 0-1 Daranelspor Sariyer 0-1 Bingy Bangy Belly Spongy Bingy Bangy Belly Spongy 2-1 Mersin Idman Yurdu Bakirköyspor 1-2 Bingy Bangy Belly Spongy ----------------------------------------------------------- Group 1 Pos Team Pld Won Drn Lst For Ag Won Drn Lst For Ag Pts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st Pl Büyüksehir Bld. Spor 16 7 0 1 16 3 5 2 1 17 5 38 2nd Dardanelspor 16 6 1 1 16 8 3 1 4 11 11 29 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3rd Sakaryaspor 16 5 1 2 12 12 3 2 3 19 22 27 4th Bakirköyspor 16 3 4 1 10 6 4 1 3 14 13 26 5th Karabükspor 16 3 1 5 13 19 3 3 1 11 9 22 6th Kartalspor 16 6 1 1 16 7 0 2 6 9 19 21 7th M. Idman Yurdu 16 4 0 4 11 13 2 2 4 10 10 20 8th Konyaspor 16 1 2 5 10 15 4 0 4 8 10 17 9th G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor 16 2 1 4 10 12 2 1 6 6 16 14 10th Sariyer 16 0 3 5 10 17 3 0 5 7 9 12
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Post by Boony on Sept 20, 2008 0:16:35 GMT
Three in a row? Great stuff. Well written too. I'm jealous. You might avoid relegation here. Oh, hang on...
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Post by Moo on Sept 22, 2008 7:05:50 GMT
Unless it's the bottom 8 get relegated.... I see a line there....
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 22, 2008 18:00:23 GMT
December 2000 At first glance this would appear to be the end of the season for those folks who aren't above random dotted lines. Being above lines isn't something that really concerns us right now, as we've only just managed to move above a team for the first time and we have two games to make sure we stay there. The first is against fifth placed Karabükaspor, at home, and it gets off to the worst possible start as the visitors attack from the opening whistle and score as Temel Faruk cleans up his own rebound for a tap in. While Karabükaspor are celebrating I notice forward Toraman Ibrahim on the ground and he's stretchered off with another knee injury after three consecutive 8/10 performances. :moop: 45 minutes later we come in for half time, wheezing and hanging on, but still only a goal down. I shuffle things around to go from a 1-2 up front to a plain three and we start to gain some pressure, leading eventually to an equaliser from Sahin Salih. We have dreams of an important draw for roughly 120 seconds, before Faruk grabs his second of the game and we send our guests home with all three points. Somehow, Sariya draw 0-0 away to the league leaders and so close the gap at the bottom to one point going into the final game. For the final game of the season, we're away to third placed Sakaryaspor, while Sariyer are at home to second placed Dardanelspor. Sariyer are one of only two teams in the division whose name doesn't end in "spor." Of course, I'm presuming our name ends in "spor" - from the length of it it may actually be an infinite length, like Pi, and "Gaziantep Büyük§ehir Belediyespor" is just defining it as far as people can be bothered before they lose the will to live. I'd like to hear the "Forfar five, East Fife four" fella read our results though. Before the game, we go out shopping again, snaffling an AMC called Osanmaz Mehmet in an effort to solve the horrible problems we have at that position and a forward amusingly called Ufuk. Mehmet will go into the eleven, with Ufuk on the bench. Sadly, Mehmet's start means a sub's role for Çil Ali, breaking up our midfield that previously looked like this : Ali, Ali, Salih, Ali, Ali, Ali. Ali, Ali, Salih, Ali, Ali, Mehmet just doesn't have the same ring to it. Anyway, Sakaryaspor - We need to keep it nice and tidy and tight in the first 20 minutes to get our eye in. We definitely don't want to let in an ea.... ahhh, crap. Çatalbus (Cattle bus?) Selim nips in at the near post to score only his second goal of the season so far to make it 1-0 to them. Over in Instanbul Sariyer and Dardanelspor are still scoreless. A result that will keep me in ninth, regardless of our score. And that's how things stay to the break. But it's not how things stay after the break, as I have a bit of a shout at the lzy Turks, longing for the halftime team talk options of FM and they respond with a rousing humping of the home side that sees us spank our way to a 3-1 win. Star of the show is Kapusuz Erol, (or "Flynn" to the lads), who cracks in a half volley and then soars to score a "brilliant" header to put us in front. With the Dardanels still scoreless with Sariyer, Sakaryaspor are desperate for points to make the playoffs and aren't going to let me coast to the finish, so they push forward... and get caught on the counter, one of the many Alis in our midfield chipping the ball in to debut boy Osanmaz "You can call me Ali" Mehmet who sidefoots home for 3-1! Sariyer draw 0-0 for the seond game running, which means I'm safe by three points! Or does it? Or does it!----------------------------------------------------- Giant Antelope Bushy Hair Building Supports 1-2 Karabükaspor Sakaryaspor 1-3 Giant Antelope Bushy Hair Building Supports ----------------------------------------------------- Group 1 Pos Team Pld Won Drn Lst For Ag Won Drn Lst For Ag Pts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st Pl Büyüksehir Bld. Spor 18 7 1 1 16 3 6 2 1 20 6 42 2nd Pl Dardanelspor 18 7 1 1 19 9 3 2 4 11 11 33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3rd Sakaryaspor 18 6 1 2 14 13 3 2 4 20 25 30 4th Bakirköyspor 18 3 4 2 11 9 4 1 4 15 15 26 5th Kartalspor 18 7 1 1 19 7 0 3 6 10 20 25 6th Karabükspor 18 3 1 5 13 19 4 3 2 13 13 25 7th M. Idman Yurdu 18 4 1 4 12 14 2 3 4 12 12 22 8th Konyaspor 18 1 3 5 12 17 4 0 5 9 13 18 9th G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor 18 3 1 5 14 15 2 1 6 6 16 17 10th Sariyer 18 0 4 5 10 17 3 1 5 7 9 14 We took 14 points from a possible 24 after I came in and won four of our last five to leap off the bottom to... one place off the bottom. Across the 51 teams in the various Turkish second divisions, we have the ninth best current form. Of course, the others might have better form if they didn't sack their managers everytime the local goat craps in the top right hand corner of the field.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 22, 2008 21:00:16 GMT
AROUND THE WORLD It's Christmas and so it's time to go around the world. And by world I mean Europe. And by Europe I mean the important leagues, like England, Italy and Spain. England Liverpool have 48 points from 22 games and are six points clear of Arsenal in second, with Man Utd a further three points back in third.
Leeds Middlesbrough and Man City make up a dire bottom three. But Leeds' fortunes are surely about to change after they spent fifteen million perfectly good Pounds on Mustapha Hadji.
Chelsea sacked Ranieri and got Frank Right Guard in and he's led the team from 18th to 6th in the space of nine games.
The third round of the FAckup is about to get underway with a single delicious all-Prem tie in the round between, err, Bradford and Leicester.
In the Leg Cup, Sunderland, Spurs and Liverpool give the Prem 75% of the semi-finalists, with the odd man out being QPR.
Germany Leverkusen are two clear of Dortmund who are three clear of Bayern.
Italy Inter, Roma and Fiorentina are all tied on 26 points, two ahead of Milan in fourth.
Scotland Celtic are eight points clear of Rangers. St Johnstone are five adrift at the bottom.
Spain Real Madrid are two points clear of Barca, in a two-horse race that would make even the Scots blush, as third place Valencia are ten points behind.
LAC We're into the phase 2 groups of cash collecting and the only big name under threat are Man United who are third with one point from two games, trailing Leverkusen and Juventus who both have 4.
United drew 1-1 with Leverkusen at Old Trafford after losing 2-0 in Turin. The other team in the group is Kiev.
In earlier rounds, Ranger ran into Barca in qualifying round 3, before Group round 1, or something, drew 2-2 in Spain and then lost 3-0 in Glasgow.
WAFER The WAFER is into round four, with a sole English team surviving. That team being Leicester.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 22, 2008 21:21:46 GMT
January 2001 Ahha! It turns out that we're not finished for the season after all. All teams who don't finish above lines from the 37 different Turkish second divisions are lumped together into "Classification Groups." There's a dotted line at either end of the Classification Group and I imagine the one at the bottom isn't good news. However, I have no idea what the one at the top is for - if you can win promotion by coming top of a group played out among the teams not good enough to get promoted then that's a scheme worthy of any South American country. It appears you keep the points earned from the first bit of the season into the classification bit, so with zero games played I'm already 13 points out of first place. My first Classification game will be at home to Mersin Idman Yurdu, who we beat 2-1 earlier in the season. The really good news though, is that I might not get to see the groups. It appears that the next time the music stops I might be the one without a chair, as the board are "extremely unhappy" with my performance - a fact which leads me to believe they had money on our relegation, because after losing 9 of their first 10, they've lost 2 of 8 under my guidance. I make a note to refer to the board as a "giant sack o' cunts" from now on. In entertaining foreign news, young Stevie Gerrard takes his attempts to imitate Dave Beckham a little too far. Not content with spraying 60 yard diagonal balls to no one in particular, Stevie G has decided to see what this metatarsal nonsense is all about and breaks his foot. He'll miss five months.
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 23, 2008 1:10:30 GMT
February 2001 February would be what you would call a close shave. The kind of close shave you'd see on a Japanese porn star. The board, or as I like to call them, the giant sack o' cunts are increasingly annoyed with me as December ends and January rolls through, despite the fact that I have no games to play and, therefore, no way to appease them. When February 11 rolls around and brings a 2-0 home to defeat to Mersin Idman Yurdu, the GSoC claim that they're coming under pressure from the very vocal and very unhappy fans to get rid of me. I almost tell them to stuff it up their hoops at that point and almost becomes very almost seven days later when we travel to play Bakirköyspor. We run into the changing rooms at half time in Istanbul with the scores empty at 0-0 and the home side not really troubling us, but the second half is insanity and it's apparent that while my forwards are trying to save my job, my defenders want me fired. Is it because I don't like fullbacks? The fun starts right from the kick off, when new boy Ufuk latches onto a header from Küçük Hüseyin to rifle a shot home, leading to lots of punning along the lines of "Ufuk-in beauty!" It's the first of four times we'll take the lead in the half and as it takes Bakirköyspor five minutes to equalise, it's also the longest we'll hold the lead. It's Dogan Inan who equalises for Bakirköyspor before Küçük Hüseyin adds to his assist with a goal of his own. Bakirköyspor equalise within two minutes, but Toraman Ibrahim fires us back in front, 3-2, with the fifth goal in twelve minutes. Five in twelve becomes six in thirteen as Bakirköyspor kick off, run down the field and equalise. They've now had three shots on goal in the second half and all of them have gone in. None of my defenders have yet made a tackle since halftime. :moop: There's then a huge wait of 11 minutes for the next goal, before Toraman Ibrahim grabs his second to put us up 4-3 with 21 minutes left. Which, predictably, becomes 4-4 two minutes later. I give up watching this point and am not surprised at all when there are no more goals. We take the lead four times away from home and end up with a point. It's all very disappointing. Disapointment then becomes anger as the GSoC decide it'd be funny to give me a vote of confidence. I can see now why Turkish managers quit so quickly. I have a 4-2-3 record for 15 points from a possible 27 for a team that took 3 from a possible 30 to open the season and I'm feeling thoroughly narked off due to the wankers in the boardroom. Fortunately, it seems the GSoC can't find their big red button in time to get rid of me before the next game, so I'll have at least another 90 minutes of football before Oksana has to clear my desk. I stick the boys out in the aggressive 3-4-3 formation and watch as absolutely nothing happens, not even a thrown in, for 16 minutes; the first event being Karabükspor's Akuygur Ahmet suffering a badly gashed leg in a robust challenge. The teams fart around a bit, probing with no real direction until Toraman Ibrahim chips the ball into the area and Küçük Hüseyin taps in after his powerful header is parried by the keeper. Ten minutes later Shain Salih also scores from a rebound and we carry a 2-0 lead into the break, looking comfortable, but being wary after the defensive debacle last week. Karabükspor charge forward to start the second half, putting us under the sort of pressure that betrays our weakness at the back, but they can't get a shot on target to punish us and on 73 minutes we get a DIY action replay, as Ibrahim runs circles around the defence again and crosses again for Küçük Hüseyin to head home for 3-0. The visitors seem to be broken by this and mount no real attempt at a comeback, which probably really annoys my board. Annoyingly, Sariyer also win but, un-annoyingly, they beat sixth placed Konyaspor, meaning not only are we not bottom, but we're not not-bottom either - we're sixth! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team who don't appreciate me 0-2 Mersin Idman Yurdu Bakirköyspor 4-4 Team who don't appreciate me Team who don't appreciate me 3-0 Karabükspor ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Classification Group 1
Pos Team Pld Won Drn Lst For Ag Won Drn Lst For Ag Pts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st Sakaryaspor 3 8 1 2 16 13 4 2 4 22 26 39 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2nd Bakirköyspor 3 3 5 2 15 13 5 1 5 19 17 30 3rd M. Idman Yurdu 3 5 1 4 15 14 3 3 5 14 13 28 4th Kartalspor 3 7 1 2 20 11 1 3 7 13 22 28 5th Karabükspor 3 4 1 6 15 21 4 3 3 13 16 28 6th G.Antep B.Sehir Bld. Spor 3 4 1 6 17 17 2 2 6 10 20 21 7th Konyaspor 3 2 3 6 14 20 4 0 6 9 16 21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8th Sariyer 3 0 4 6 10 19 4 1 6 9 10 17 March 1 rolls around and the board say they're "pleased" with my geneal performance. Eat it, losers!
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Post by Sonic on Sept 23, 2008 3:51:02 GMT
I guess being in last spot wasn't what they were betting on after all. It must be something closer to 6th.
KUTGW :thumb:
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Post by Moo on Sept 23, 2008 8:12:50 GMT
We went through the Turkish system at CotD III and I can't for the life of me remember how it works. However, I believe that I did post a huge explanation of how this league works, so if you want, I can try and find that for you. It was convoluted to say the least.
KUTGW! :thumb:
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Post by Moo on Sept 23, 2008 9:21:21 GMT
OK, so despite looking for my old explanation which was on the pantfish.net board (now deader than Newcastle's hopes of retaining a semi-decent squad next season), Boony's CM0102 link from the Baton thread seems to give me the exact same explanation. So that's nice.
I remember doing a map on a piece of A4 to try and work it out in my head before CotD III and it was complicated.
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Turkish 2. Division Category B - 50 teams, split into 5 groups of 10 teams each for the Group Stage.
Each team plays each other 2 times for a total of 18 games in each group. The top 2 teams in each group move on to the Promotion Playoff stage, while the remaining teams move on to the Classification Groups.
In the Promotion Playoff, each team plays each other 2 times for a total of 14 games. 2 teams promoted, 3 teams qualify for a playoff to determine the last team promoted.
In the 5 Classification Groups, teams from the same groups in the Group Stage play each other 2 more times for a total of 14 games each, and carry over all points from the [original] Group Stage. One team in each group advances to the playoff to determine the last team promoted. Two teams are relegated from each of the groups.
All rounds in the playoff are 1 leg each, with the winners being promoted.
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So 1st and 2nd from the Playoff group goes up, teams 3, 4, 5 go into a KO with the five "classification" group winners.
The bottom two teams from the 5 "classification" groups get relegated.
Flooding back. Horrible memories......
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Post by Sonic on Sept 23, 2008 11:46:18 GMT
:cab:
I don't think you can be drunk enough to come up with a system like that.
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Post by Boony on Sept 23, 2008 11:55:05 GMT
I think there was one stage at CotD III when I was drunk enough to understand it...
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Post by Mr Bismarck's Electric Donkey on Sept 23, 2008 12:01:46 GMT
The bottom two you say? :moop:
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Post by Moo on Sept 23, 2008 12:08:09 GMT
Yes. And because the points get carried over, if you're one of the poorer squads and probably with the lowest points, you're going to struggle again against the better sides. Boo - you weren't that pished.
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